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2005's Top 50 Independent Women Wrestlers
« Thread Started on Nov 6, 2005, 10:32pm »
The Wrestling Clothesline is proud to present the Third Annual Wrestling Clothesline's Top 50 Independent Women Wrestlers.

Check out this year's list at http://www.wrestlingclothesline.com/Top50Women2005.htm

Feel free to leave your thoughts, comments, etc. here in this topic!
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Re: 2005's Top 50 Independent Women Wrestlers
« Reply #1 on Nov 6, 2005, 10:49pm »
Well, I like the list. I should, since I actually helped with it, something I haven't done for the site in a while.
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Re: 2005's Top 50 Independent Women Wrestlers
« Reply #2 on Nov 7, 2005, 9:13am »
Helped with it? Saying "yep" to my suggestions is helping?? LOL
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Re: 2005's Top 50 Independent Women Wrestlers
« Reply #3 on Nov 7, 2005, 12:56pm »
Well I think the list is great..Except for one person that made it to the LIST
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Re: 2005's Top 50 Independent Women Wrestlers
« Reply #4 on Nov 8, 2005, 7:39am »

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Helped with it? Saying "yep" to my suggestions is helping?? LOL


Yep. :)
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Re: 2005's Top 50 Independent Women Wrestlers
« Reply #5 on Nov 8, 2005, 7:53am »
Since you brought it up, Joe.. why not enlighten us on who that one person is and WHY they shouldn't have made the list.
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Re: 2005's Top 50 Independent Women Wrestlers
« Reply #6 on Nov 8, 2005, 11:12am »
I do not want to start any trouble.....

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Re: 2005's Top 50 Independent Women Wrestlers
« Reply #7 on Nov 8, 2005, 4:39pm »
I personally want to see more comments like we had earlier this week. I'd like to see positive ones, too. :)
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Re: 2005's Top 50 Independent Women Wrestlers
« Reply #8 on Nov 8, 2005, 6:27pm »
Start any trouble? You posted in a public forum that you had a problem with ONE person on the list. Come on. Lay it out there for us all to see. If you don't, I will! LOL

While you're at it, let me know who should have been in place of that person that you don't think is deserving and why.

Side note, with the exception of one flaming email and one from a pissed off stalker, all the other emails I have received have been positive. Not everyone may agree with the rankings but they all agree that the purpose is to get people talking and now (with the exception of Joe who starts stuff then doesn't want to finish) they are doing just that.
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Re: 2005's Top 50 Independent Women Wrestlers
« Reply #9 on Nov 8, 2005, 8:35pm »

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Start any trouble? You posted in a public forum that you had a problem with ONE person on the list. Come on. Lay it out there for us all to see. If you don't, I will! LOL

While you're at it, let me know who should have been in place of that person that you don't think is deserving and why.

Side note, with the exception of one flaming email and one from a pissed off stalker, all the other emails I have received have been positive. Not everyone may agree with the rankings but they all agree that the purpose is to get people talking and now (with the exception of Joe who starts stuff then doesn't want to finish) they are doing just that.


Boo! Name the pissed off stalker!

All I know is that I am happy with the results, as everyone worked their best with what they had.
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Re: 2005's Top 50 Independent Women Wrestlers
« Reply #10 on Nov 8, 2005, 10:22pm »
I'm satisfied with them too. Just waiting for Joe to tell us why Annie Social should have been ranked higher than a girl who actually had training, held some titles, and works on a regular basis as a WRESTLER. (as opposed to Annie, whom I love dearly, who wrestles 2x a year at most).
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Re: 2005's Top 50 Independent Women Wrestlers
« Reply #11 on Nov 13, 2005, 2:22pm »
I guess your right, TALIA should be ranked...
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Re: 2005's Top 50 Independent Women Wrestlers
« Reply #12 on Nov 21, 2005, 6:38am »
This is a list of averages by Brett for the last three years and two years. It was a list I posted on GLORY Wrestling, and Brett asked if I would post it here.

Top Women of the last three years

I just want to say to Brett Schwan, you do a good job on doing the top 50, and I know that lists are hard to make. Usually I like to use this as an Link of the Day, because it gives the fans a chance to check out the list. Well Brett, I am here in Louisiana, on a rainy day, and since I am a person who like to play with statistics, I took all three of your list, and I have come up with the top ladies of the last three years. I did notice only one year did you have honorable mentions. With that is mind, how I ranked the ladies was how you had them ranked over the last three years, by giving them 51 points if they were number one, 49 for 2, all the way to 2 points for finishing 50th, and yes I even gave one point to those who were honorable mentions. I hope you will like this list, and I present to you the top ladies of the last three years, with the ranking of the ladies, their rankings(2003, 2004, 2005) and the total number of points. In case of a tie, the girl who had the highest seeding is higher ranked, and in case all numbers are the same, the lady who achieved the highest ranking first. So here is the list.

1. April Hunter (3,1,1) 151
2. Ariel (8,6,2) 140
3. Tracy Brooks (1,4, 13) 138
4. Cindy Rogers (17,2,2) 135
5. Mercedes Martinez (10,8,4) 134
6. Malia Hosaka (4, 5, 14) 133
7. Nikki Roxx (12, 10, 5) 129
8. Simply Luscious (16, 9, 9) 122
9. Little Jeanne (5, 14, 19) 118
10.Sumie Sakai (6, 22, 10) 118
11.Alere Little Feather (20, 13, 11) 112
12.Beth Phoenix (14,3, 31) 108
13.Sarah Stock (7, 23,23) 103
14.Lexie Fyfe (23, 18, 18) 97
15.Allison Danger (21,16,30) 89
16.Alicia (33, 19, 16) 88
17.Erica Porter (13, 7, N/R) 84
18.Angel "Riptide" Orsini (25, 27, 21) 83
19.Trinity (9, 15, N/R) 80
20.Angel Williams (15, 11, N/R) 78
21.Kassidy (18, 12, N/R) 74
22.Kayla (N/R, 17, 15) 72
23.Lady Victoria (43, 24, 20) 69
24.Luscious Lily (N/R, 20, 17) 67
25.Lacey (H, 33, 6) 66
26.Valentina (26, 21, N/R) 57
27.Miss DeVille (N/R, 38, 12) 54
28.Rain (36, 34, 32) 54
29.Alexis Laree (2, N/R, N/R) 50
30.Violet Flame (30, N/R, 24) 50
31.Cheerleader Melissa (42, 28, 36) 50
32.Brandi Alexander (24, 29, N/R) 49
33.Tara Charisma (32, 26, N/R) 46
34.ODB (N/R, 31, 27) 46
35.Daizee Haze (N/R, N/R, 7) 45
36.Leilani Kai (29, 30, N/R) 45
37.Jazz (N/R, N/R, 8) 44
38.Macaela Mercedes (11, N/R, N/R) 41
39.NYX (28, 35, N/R) 41
40.21st Century Fox (N/R, 37, 28) 39
41.Amy Lee (H, 46, 22) 37
42.Super J (38, 32, N/R) 34
43.Candie (19, N/R, N/R) 33
44.Sonya Blackhawk (46, 25, N/R) 33
45.Lucy Furr (22, 30, N/R) 30
46.Psycho b###h (39, 36, N/R) 29
47.Mickie Knuckles (N/R, N/R, 25) 27
48.Camron Star (N/R, 40, 37) 27
49.LuFisto (N/R, N/R, 26) 26
50.Persephone (44, N/R, 34) 26
51.Serena (27, N/R, N/R) 25
52.Sara Del Ray (34, N/R, 45) 25
53.Amber O'Neal (H, 45, 35) 25
54.Fantasia (N/R, N/R, 29) 23
55.Christine Ricci (N/R, 42, 40) 22
56.G.I. Ho (31, N/R, N/R) 21
57.Hailey Skye (N/R, 44, 39) 21
58.MsChif (N/R, N/R, 33) 19
59.Hellena Heavenly (N/R, 41, 44) 19
60.Rio Storm (35, N/R, N/R) 17
61.Stacy Hunter (37, N/R, N/R) 15
62.Synndy (N/R, N/R, 38) 14
63.Kara Slice (H, 39, N/R) 14
64.Kameo (47, 43, N/R) 14
65.Amanda Storm (40, N/R, N/R) 12
66.Dianne Von Hoffman (41, N/R, N/R) 11
67.Vanessa Harding (N/R, N/R, 41) 11
68.Tiffani Monroe (N/R, 50, 43) 11
69.Krissy Vaine (N/R, N/R, 42) 10
70.Crazy Daisy (49, 47, N/R) 8
71.Hailey (45, N/R, N/R) 7
72.Della Morte (N/R, N/R, 46) 6
73.Aleya Thacker (N/R, N/R, 47) 5
74.Melissa Coates (48, N/R, N/R) 4
75.Hollywood (N/R, 48, N/R) 4
76.Talia (N/R, N/R, 48) 4
77.Hurricane Havana (N/R, 49, N/R) 3
78.Michelle Morgan (N/R, N/R, 49) 3
79.Lollipop (50, N/R, N/R) 2
80.Amber (N/R, N/R, 50) 2

The Rest of the Honorable Mentions of 2003, one point each. Foxxy Dreams, Noel, Roxy Rave, Alura, Bambi, Passion, Brandy Wine, Miss Michelle, Louise Lockwood, Elmira The Iron Maiden, and Amanda Violet. Congratulations to all the ladies on this list.

N/R= Not Rated
H= Honorable Mention.


The top women of the last two years

Using the same format, and uses Brett's chart of 2004, and 2005 here are the top ladies of the last two years.
1. April Hunter (1, 1) 102
2. Cindy Rogers (2, 2) 100
3. Ariel (6, 2) 96
4. Mercedes Martinez (8, 4) 92
5. Nikki Roxx (10, 5) 89
6. Tracy Brooks (4, 13) 87
7. Simply Luscious (9, 9) 86
8. Malia Hosaka (5, 14) 85
9. Alere Little Feather (13, 11) 80
10. Sumie Sakai (22, 10) 72
11. Kayla (17, 15) 72
12. Little Jeanne (14, 19) 71
13. Beth Pheonix (3, 31) 70
14. Alicia (19, 16) 69
15. Lexie Fyfe (18, 18) 68
16. Luscious Lily (20, 17) 67
17. Lacey (33, 6) 65
18. Lady Victoria (24, 20) 60
19. Allison Danger (16, 30) 58
20. Sarah Stock (23, 23) 58
21. Angel "Riptide" Orsini (27, 21) 56
22. Miss DeVille (38, 12) 54
23. ODB (31, 27) 46
24. Erica Porter (7, N/R) 45
25. Daizee Haze (N/R, 7) 45
26. Jazz (N/R, 8) 44
27. Angel Williams (11, N/R) 41
28. 21st Century Fox (37, 38) 41
29. Kassidy (12, N/R) 40
30. Rain (34, 32) 38
31. Trinity (15, N/R) 37
32. Amy (46, 22) 36
33. Valentina (21, N/R) 31
34. Violet Flame (N/R 24) 28
35. Sonya Blackhawk (25, N/R) 27
36. Mickie Knuckles (N/R, 25) 27
37. Camron Star (40, 37) 27
38. Tara Charisma (26, N/R) 26
39. LuFisto (N/R, 26) 26
40. Amber O'Neal (45, 35) 24
41. Brandi Alexander (29, N/R) 23
42. Fantasia (N/R, 29) 23
43. Leilani Kai (30, N/R) 22
44. Christine Ricci (42, 40) 22
45. Hailey Skye (44, 39) 21
46. Super J (32, N/R) 20
47. MsChif (N/R, 33) 19
48. Hellena Heavenly (41, 44) 19
49. Persephone (N/R, 34) 18
50. NYX (35, N/R) 17
51. Psycho b###h (36, N/R) 16
52. Synndy (N/R, 38) 14
53. Kara Slice (39, N/R) 13
54. Vanessa Harding (N/R, 41) 11
55. Tiffani Monroe (50, 43) 11
56. Krissy Vaine (N/R, 42) 10
57. Kameo (43, N/R) 9
58. Sara Del Ray (N/R, 45) 7
59. Della Morte (N/R, 46) 6
60. Crazy Daisy (47, N/R) 5
61. Aleya Thacker (N/R, 47) 5
62. Hollywood (48, N/R) 4
63. Talia (N/R, 48) 4
64. Hurricane Havana (49, N/R) 3
65. Michelle Morgan, (N/R, 49) 3
66. Amber (N/R, 50) 2
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Re: 2005's Top 50 Independent Women Wrestlers
« Reply #13 on Nov 21, 2005, 9:43am »
It amazes me that you took the time to figure all that out.
Thanks!
Personally, I think the averages pretty much tell it like it is for the women's scene today.
Thanks again and welcome to the board.
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Re: 2005's Top 50 Independent Women Wrestlers
« Reply #14 on Oct 12, 2006, 10:32am »
I'm just wondering when the top 50 for 2006 will be listed?
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